At present’s mission is to work out how appropriate the Ryzen 5 5600 is to make use of with a contemporary high-end GPU, such because the GeForce RTX 4080. Can the Ryzen 5 7600 with the RTX 4070 Ti ship higher efficiency, and the way a lot sooner is the 7800X3D?
Whereas all these knowledge factors could seem considerably random, our reasoning is that fairly a couple of of you might be doubtless operating a Ryzen 5 5600 or an identical CPU, and it’s possible you’ll be questioning if the improve to a extra highly effective GPU would require a whole platform improve. In fact, this can nearly actually depend upon the video games you wish to play – and the way you want to play them – however the upcoming set of outcomes ought to provide you with a extremely good concept of what to anticipate.
One other technique to describe this function is as a follow-up to our article: Sooner GPU or Sooner CPU for the Similar Value, once we examined the Ryzen 7600 + RTX 4070 Ti combo versus a Ryzen 7800X3D + RTX 4070. Spoiler alert, the ultimate conclusion to that comparability was “it relies upon,” and in that benchmark function we demonstrated precisely why that was the case.
Many readers appeared to take pleasure in that piece, and we acquired additional requests so as to add extra knowledge. The Ryzen 5 5600 was a kind of extremely requested components, so right here we’re. Whereas earlier than we had simply two {hardware} configurations, on this article we now have 5 and the outcomes are actually fascinating.
For testing, we’re utilizing Home windows 11 with the most recent drivers and BIOS variations for every motherboard. In whole, we have examined eight video games. This won’t sound like lots, however there’s loads of knowledge to overview, so let’s get into it…
Benchmarks
Beginning with Avatar, which is a really GPU-heavy recreation when utilizing the ultra-quality settings, we discover that the Ryzen 5 5600 performs very effectively. Positive, at 1080p, it was as much as 25% slower than the 7800X3D, however as soon as we jumped as much as 1440p – a extra real looking configuration for one of these recreation utilizing this type of {hardware} – the 5600 is roughly in a position to match the 7800X3D. Then, at 4K, efficiency is an identical.
In brief, the Ryzen 5 5600 can drive as much as 150 fps on common, with 1% lows simply shy of 100 fps. At real looking settings, this is sufficient to extract the utmost stage of efficiency out of an RTX 4080 and actually offers greater than sufficient efficiency to totally take pleasure in this recreation.
Transferring on to Starfield, we encounter a recreation that is rather more demanding on the CPU. The Ryzen 5 5600 can solely drive roughly 70 fps on common, and at 1080p, it was barely slower than the 7800X3D utilizing the RTX 4070. Thus, the RTX 4080 is wasted on the older Ryzen 5 half, correctly round 40% sooner, as demonstrated by the 7800X3D.
Transferring as much as 1440p helps, besides, the 5600 remains to be restricted to round 70 fps, which is similar stage of efficiency you may count on from the RTX 4070 Ti when paired with a contemporary processor. In reality, the 5600 + RTX 4080 combo was simply 16% sooner than the 7800X3D and RTX 4070 combo, or 17% slower than the 7800X3D utilizing the 4080.
It isn’t till we hit the 4K decision that efficiency turns into extra GPU restricted, and now the 5600 is ready to match the 7800X3D with simply shy of 60 fps. So, based mostly on that, you would possibly conclude that the 5600 is ok for 4K gaming with an RTX 4080. And whereas that is considerably true, it is also positive for 1440p and 1080p if all you require is 60 fps.
Nonetheless, with a 70 fps cap, it isn’t excellent for these excited about a excessive refresh price expertise. In that case, you’d merely downgrade to the ‘excessive preset’ looking for larger body charges. This strategy will work with a 7600 or 7800X3D, however with the 5600, you will nonetheless be capped at round 70 fps.
Subsequent up, we’ve got The Final of Us Half I, utilizing the ultra-quality preset. At 1080p, the Ryzen 5 5600 does fairly effectively, delivering a mean of 110 fps, although the 1% lows are a bit low at 79 fps. As compared, the 7800X3D is 72% sooner, and for these with excessive refresh price shows, the distinction right here is important. Furthermore, the 7600 with the 4070 Ti offered a better body price/easy expertise, and in our opinion, the 7800X3D with the RTX 4070 was additionally higher.
But when we leap as much as 1440p, the sport does begin to turn into extra CPU certain, no less than with the ultra-quality settings. Nonetheless, even so, the body time efficiency of the Ryzen 5 5600 wasn’t almost as constant. For instance, we noticed only a 10% variance for the 7800X3D and RTX 4080 combo between the typical body price and 1% lows, whereas the 5600 produced a forty five% variance, leading to a poorer expertise with extra noticeable body dips.
Once more, the 7800X3D or 7600 with the RTX 4070 Ti offered a greater expertise total. Then, as soon as once more by the point we hit the 4K decision, the outcomes are closely GPU restricted, and now the 5600 is ready to match the 7800X3D, albeit with simply over 60 fps.
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is one other fashionable recreation that is very demanding on each the CPU and GPU, particularly with ray tracing enabled. Right here, we see that the Ryzen 5 5600 will restrict you to round 66 fps on common, with 1% lows simply over 50 fps. This makes the 7800X3D nearly 60% sooner on common, with a 75% enhance to the 1% lows. The 5600 is so underpowered at 1080p that considerably higher efficiency is achievable utilizing both the 7600 with the 4070 Ti or the 7800X3D with the 4070.
Upping the decision to 1440p would not change a lot. The 5600 is barely in a position to match the 7800X3D when utilizing the slower RTX 4070, whereas the 4070 Ti configurations with the 7800X3D and 7600 had been 27% sooner. Then, to maximise ray tracing efficiency on this title at 1440p, the 7800X3D was over 50% sooner when utilizing the RTX 4080.
Even at 4K, the 5600 is barely slower than the 7800X3D, however we’re taking a look at sub-60 fps body charges right here. Personally, we might need them a lot larger, so we might both play at 1440p, use upscaling, or cut back the standard settings for body charges effectively over 60 fps.
Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered is surprisingly straightforward on the CPU load, and in consequence, the Ryzen 5 5600 nonetheless performs nice, permitting for simply over 90 fps with 1% lows of 60-70 fps. That is strong efficiency from the older finances processor, however for these of you trying to improve your GPU, there’s little level in going for one thing as high-end because the RTX 4080, and actually, even the RTX 4070 would possibly find yourself being overkill.
At 1080p, the RTX 4070 was good for 155 fps and was restricted even by the 7800X3D, making the 4070/7800X3D combo 65% sooner than the 5600. The 1440p outcomes are mainly the identical, and even at 4K, the 5600 struggles, unable to get anyplace close to essentially the most out of the RTX 4080. Right here, the 7800X3D was nonetheless 68% sooner, whereas the 7600 or 7800X3D paired with the 4070 Ti had been nonetheless 17% sooner on common, with as much as 38% stronger 1% lows.
Name of Obligation: Warzone is a aggressive on-line shooter, and usually, those that play extra significantly will use aggressive high quality settings. This not solely boosts body charges however, maybe extra importantly, makes it simpler to identify enemy gamers. So, on this case, we’re not utilizing the ultra-quality preset like we have completed for the single-player video games however as an alternative dialed all the way down to the fundamental preset.
Doing so noticed the Ryzen 5 5600 max out at 235 fps, a decent and passable body price for positive, and even the 1% lows had been good. However in case you demand extra – and also you finest imagine some avid gamers do – the 7800X3D was 52% sooner for the typical body price and 60% sooner for the 1% lows. This additionally means the 7800X3D paired with the RTX 4070 remains to be sooner at 1080p, whereas the 7600 and 4070 Ti configuration was even sooner once more.
Rising the decision to 1440p sees the 5600 and RTX 4080 combo delivering related efficiency to the 7800X3D and 7600 combo utilizing the RTX 4070 Ti. So, you are still taking a look at round a 30% enhance with the 7800X3D when paired with the 4080.
The 7800X3D was nonetheless sooner at 4K, although right here the margin does shrink to only 10% when evaluating the typical body price. So, in case you’re taking part in at 4K or solely require 1% lows of simply over 100 fps with a mean body price of round 150 fps, the 5600 shall be positive, although you are most likely higher off pairing it with the RTX 4070 Ti.
Fortnite is a really CPU-demanding recreation, particularly within the late recreation, and right here the Ryzen 5 5600 was restricted to 178 fps at 1080p, with 1% lows of 100 fps. The typical body price is okay, however these 1% lows are an actual subject. We take into account ourselves semi-serious aggressive avid gamers. We do not declare to be superb, however when taking part in Fortnite, we require the body price to remain above 200 fps to carry out our greatest. We discover flick pictures a lot more durable to hit when dipping under that concentrate on, and that is one thing we have spent a substantial period of time testing.
So for us, the 5600 can be unacceptable right this moment, regardless of the body charges being very excessive by single-player requirements. The Ryzen 5 7600 additionally noticed weaker than anticipated 1% lows, regardless of a really sturdy common body price. Reaching a gradual body price in Fortnite will be difficult, however the 7800X3D actually does a greater job of it, greater than doubling the efficiency of the 5600, even at 4K.
Should you’re predominantly a single-player gamer, these body charges will little doubt appear extreme. We regularly hear inexperienced gamers touch upon what Counter-Strike avid gamers demand, however it actually does make a distinction. You do not have to be a professional for the benefit of those significantly excessive body charges to be useful. So, in case you’re a single-player gamer, do not make the error of pondering your efficiency necessities are universally accepted, as a result of they are not.
Talking of Counter-Strike 2, listed here are some outcomes. Now, we’ve not performed Counter-Strike significantly for a decade, so we’re a bit out of contact with what’s required right here. However after some analysis on boards and CS2 dialogue boards, the final consensus appears to be that something under 250 fps begins to turn into sub-optimal, with most critical avid gamers aiming for 300 fps or higher – similar to our expertise with Fortnite, and this most likely applies to best shooters.
That mentioned, the Ryzen 5 5600 seems to be very succesful right here, delivering nearly 400 fps at 1080p, with 1% lows of over 200 fps. Nonetheless, the RTX 4080 is able to a lot higher efficiency, and actually, for 1080p gaming, an RTX 4070 Ti appears to be optimum, delivering simply over 600 fps on common within the fingers of the 7800X3D.
Leaping as much as 1440p, the sport naturally begins to turn into a bit extra GPU restricted, besides, the 7800X3D, armed with simply the RTX 4070, is ready to match the 5600/RTX 4080 combo. So, we might say the RTX 4070 goes to be a extra optimum pairing for the older Ryzen 5 processor on this title.
We’re undecided if many CS2 gamers recreation at 4K, however in case you do, the RTX 4080 begins to turn into helpful. Right here, you want a very good CPU, because the 1% lows for the Ryzen 5 5600 had been fairly weak, with the 7800X3D being nearly 50% sooner.
Placing It All Collectively
Calculating the typical gaming efficiency calculated utilizing the geomean is a bit pointless right here, or maybe liable to being a bit deceptive, as a result of as we have simply seen it should all depend upon the video games you are taking part in, as to how effectively the Ryzen 5 5600 makes use of the GeForce RTX 4080.
However out of curiosity, if we have a look at the typical knowledge, we see that at 1080p, the place the GPU bottleneck shouldn’t be an element, CPU utilization is maximized the Ryzen 5600 simply cannot push the RTX 4080 arduous sufficient, and can usually discover itself too sluggish for even the RTX 4070.
We would say an RTX 4060 Ti class of product can be extra appropriate, which has similarities to a Radeon 6700 XT or GeForce RTX 3070, that are just like the RTX 2080 Ti, for reference.
However in case you enhance the decision to 1440p, the Ryzen can usually step up a tier and would work fairly effectively with an RTX 4070. Then at 4K it is extra on the stage of the 4070 Ti.
So whereas yow will discover cases the place the 5600 will match the 7800X3D with an RTX 4080, they’re few and much between. Typically once we see this type of body charges, they’re too low anyway, so you’d most likely cut back the GPU load for larger numbers.
What We Realized
For a 2-year-old mid to entry-level product, the Ryzen 5 5600 stands up very well. Nonetheless, in case you’re searching for a graphics card improve, we would not advocate going previous a GeForce RTX 4070 or Radeon 7800 XT to pair together with your CPU. As a rule, you will end up unable to completely make the most of sooner GPUs.
Granted, we’re generalizing right here, as we simply noticed that is very a lot recreation and high quality settings dependent. Even so, in case you’re already on the AM4 platform, which you’d be with a Ryzen 5 5600, you do get the choice of going after that subsequent stage of efficiency, if that is what you need. In that situation, snapping up a Ryzen 7 5800X3D for $310, alongside together with your new GPU, can be a wise transfer – or no less than it might be cheap to contemplate in case you’re already parting with $700+ on a graphics card.
Having mentioned that, we solely advocate the 5800X3D for these already on AM4. For everybody else, we advocate leaping on AM5… or perhaps take into account Intel’s LGA 1700 platform? Although we actually battle to make sound arguments for going LGA 1700 at this cut-off date.
Now, in case you’re a single-player gamer, taking part in titles reminiscent of Avatar, Alan Wake 2, Starfield, and so forth, you is likely to be questioning why anybody would wish greater than 178 fps in Fortnite, and that is a good query. In that instance, it was the 1% lows that had been extra of concern, besides, there are a number of advantages to larger body charges total, assuming you may have the right monitor setup and/or expertise to make the most of it.
Furthermore, you will doubtless come up towards some situations inside the recreation which are extra closely reliant on the CPU than what we examined right here. The identical applies to Counter-Strike 2 and Warzone. There are actually extra video games we might have examined that might present outcomes just like what we noticed within the multiplayer titles, however this testing ought to have painted a fairly clear image.
Total, the Ryzen 5 5600 has confirmed to be a superb purchase for $200 or much less, and it nonetheless has loads of life left in it but, simply not as a high-end resolution which it was by no means meant to be anyway. However as we mentioned within the intro, a lot of you continue to rocking the 5600 have requested us what sort of current-generation GPU improve makes essentially the most sense, with some questioning if going as excessive as an RTX 4080 would work with out having to spend much more cash on a CPU or platform improve. The quick reply is, you will doubtless wish to improve your CPU.